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	<title>Comments on: XXIV. Stuff Byzantine Catholics Like &#8211; Liturgical gymnastics</title>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://stuffcatholicslike.com/2008/06/29/xxiv-stuff-byzantine-catholics-like-liturgical-gymnastics/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Irene: Yes, on the kneeling. I was referring more to the fact that no kneeling accompanies the consecration as most Latin visitors would expect. 

To Susan: I think you&#039;re right. The irony is that the farther West you go the more Eastern it is. :) Having been to parishes in New York, Seattle, Albuquerque, and Texas that seems a pretty consistent rule. Also worth mentioning we tend to be more filled with converts who are more zealously protective of Eastern traditions than &#039;Nash are. As an example: You should have seen the metropolitan&#039;s reaction to all the hand kissing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Irene: Yes, on the kneeling. I was referring more to the fact that no kneeling accompanies the consecration as most Latin visitors would expect. </p>
<p>To Susan: I think you&#8217;re right. The irony is that the farther West you go the more Eastern it is. <img src='http://stuffcatholicslike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Having been to parishes in New York, Seattle, Albuquerque, and Texas that seems a pretty consistent rule. Also worth mentioning we tend to be more filled with converts who are more zealously protective of Eastern traditions than &#8216;Nash are. As an example: You should have seen the metropolitan&#8217;s reaction to all the hand kissing. <img src='http://stuffcatholicslike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not every Byzantine parish uses all of these customs.  The one I attend does have holy water, obviously a Westernization, but I see that few people use it. 
No one makes a prostration at the Trisagon; we just cross ourselves. The only time I see prostrations is at  Liturgy of the PreSanctified, perhaps because this service was re-introduced in the process of reclaiming our Eastern roots.  Perhaps because in Texas your Byzantine parish is fairly new, it is all Byzantine, all the time.   My parish is in an east coast city  which had many immigrants from Slavic countires.  Even those who split off from them and went back to Orthodoxy (ACROD) retain a bit of Western Catholic influence, much as they wouldn&#039;t like to admit it. 

I would enjoy worshipping at your parish.
Susan Peterson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not every Byzantine parish uses all of these customs.  The one I attend does have holy water, obviously a Westernization, but I see that few people use it.<br />
No one makes a prostration at the Trisagon; we just cross ourselves. The only time I see prostrations is at  Liturgy of the PreSanctified, perhaps because this service was re-introduced in the process of reclaiming our Eastern roots.  Perhaps because in Texas your Byzantine parish is fairly new, it is all Byzantine, all the time.   My parish is in an east coast city  which had many immigrants from Slavic countires.  Even those who split off from them and went back to Orthodoxy (ACROD) retain a bit of Western Catholic influence, much as they wouldn&#8217;t like to admit it. </p>
<p>I would enjoy worshipping at your parish.<br />
Susan Peterson</p>
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		<title>By: Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are lovely - I&#039;m Eastern Orthodox, but I&#039;ve been to an Estern Catholic service, and they&#039;re a lot alike. There IS kneeling - for an hour straight on Pentecost, called &quot;kneeling vespers.&quot;

And speaking of liturgical gymnastics - instead of Ash Wednesday Eastern churches have Forgiveness Sunday, where each person in the congregation (including the priest) prostrates to each other member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are lovely &#8211; I&#8217;m Eastern Orthodox, but I&#8217;ve been to an Estern Catholic service, and they&#8217;re a lot alike. There IS kneeling &#8211; for an hour straight on Pentecost, called &#8220;kneeling vespers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And speaking of liturgical gymnastics &#8211; instead of Ash Wednesday Eastern churches have Forgiveness Sunday, where each person in the congregation (including the priest) prostrates to each other member.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a Byzantine service last year while on vacation - couldn&#039;t find a Catholic church in time.  It was VERY long, compared to traditional Roman Catholic services, but very moving.  The priest was used to vacationers and other visitors at mass, and they explained everything.

The entire service was chanted/sung.  I got a little queasy from the incense, but managed to stay the entire time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a Byzantine service last year while on vacation &#8211; couldn&#8217;t find a Catholic church in time.  It was VERY long, compared to traditional Roman Catholic services, but very moving.  The priest was used to vacationers and other visitors at mass, and they explained everything.</p>
<p>The entire service was chanted/sung.  I got a little queasy from the incense, but managed to stay the entire time.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;m a convert to Catholicism, so even the Roman Rite seemed strange and difficult to remember at first, I can&#039;t imagine having to remember all of that stuff! Yikes! Haha, it does sound like a beautiful liturgy, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m a convert to Catholicism, so even the Roman Rite seemed strange and difficult to remember at first, I can&#8217;t imagine having to remember all of that stuff! Yikes! Haha, it does sound like a beautiful liturgy, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lirioroja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lirioroja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this is great!  Which reminds me, I&#039;m overdue for a visit to one of our Eastern Catholic parishes.  I love the Divine Liturgy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is great!  Which reminds me, I&#8217;m overdue for a visit to one of our Eastern Catholic parishes.  I love the Divine Liturgy!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do go drop by!

http://www.byzcath.org/ - An incomplete list of parishes. You can also do a Google search for words like Byzantine, Meklite, Ukrainian, Romanian, etc. plust your city&#039;s name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do go drop by!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.byzcath.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.byzcath.org/</a> &#8211; An incomplete list of parishes. You can also do a Google search for words like Byzantine, Meklite, Ukrainian, Romanian, etc. plust your city&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Santana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Santana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful indeed! I would love to partake in a Byzantine liturgy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful indeed! I would love to partake in a Byzantine liturgy.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Gould</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite beautiful, yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite beautiful, yes!</p>
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